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Post by Nekoaa on May 1, 2011 0:57:05 GMT -5
Good to see this thread back on a lighter note <3 Yeah, I knew about the flying spaghetti monster xDD I referenced him because I deemed it awesome. I also don't get that whole "god is against gays" thing. Homosexuality is not just in humans, it's in many other species of animals :/ but homophobia is only in one species. Lol @koi's apparent gayness xD I think that may have happened to me too, my friends are pretty close and we look absolutely ridiculous, but nobody tried to pray for me.
As for the teaching of religion/science, nobody's forcing you to follow what they are teaching. I wish my school offered classes on religion and different beliefs, because I would definitely like to learn them all (Greek mythology is awesome). Evolution is also still banned in several places, I think. Overall I don't think the education system has that big on an effect on what you believe unless you've gone to like a Catholic school your entire life or something.
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Post by Fusion on May 1, 2011 5:53:20 GMT -5
Good to see this thread back on a lighter note <3 I also don't get that whole "god is against gays" thing. Homosexuality is not just in humans, it's in many other species of animals :/ but homophobia is only in one species. Exactly For example, male geese will often attempt to mate together, and three-geese "relationships" are not uncommon . There are also hermaphrodite animals. You get Sequential hermaphrodites, those which change sex in their life (There are Protandry (male->female eg:Clownfish) and Protogyny (female->male eg:fish called "wrasses")) and you can get Simultaneous hermaphrodites, those with both parts (snails, slugs and earthworms are all simultaneous hermaphrodites)*adds homosexual/hermaphrodite animals to arguemental points list*
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Post by Darkrai17 on May 1, 2011 10:05:25 GMT -5
*takes a deep breath* Alright, here's my opinion on religion. I only believe that there is one god that he has no partners or anything like that, and that he created the universe. I also believe that god can see what you do and he knows everything, because he is the forgiving and the protector of mankind. This is all I am going to say...I don't want anyone hating me or anything...
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Post by ratminer on May 1, 2011 10:23:54 GMT -5
i was just comparing the whole atheism in education to the whole jehova's witnesses coming door to door i guess it wasn't a good comparison lol
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Post by Jerez on May 2, 2011 0:51:04 GMT -5
If God's so forgiving why doesn't everyone get a second chance...Maybe someone screwed up their life with drugs...do they get a second chance cause of one dumb mistake? What about Osama? He just died...perhaps he never wanted to be a terrorist...maybe he wanted to be a florist? I don't know...and I had alot against that particular person...But seriously. If God was so forgiving wouldn't he unconditionally love everybody despite whether they believed in him or not?
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Post by Darkrai17 on May 3, 2011 12:43:52 GMT -5
.....I don't want to start an argument with you Jerez, but I will say this:I am not sure about getting second chances, but it's in god's will to decide weather you do get a second chance or not. As for them dying, it was their time to die. You never know when you shall die because only god decides weather you die or not. As for god loving everyone, indeed he does love all his creations.
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Post by Jack on May 3, 2011 14:04:39 GMT -5
You die when you die. And when you're dead, you're dead. That's it. Nothing else happens.
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Post by Jerez on May 3, 2011 15:11:55 GMT -5
Correction You SHOULD die when you die. Noone should take your life...for it is not your time.
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Post by Darkrai17 on May 3, 2011 15:27:59 GMT -5
@jack: Something actually does happen when you die, when you die you enter the grave as stated in the Quran itself.
Death cannot be delayed or advanced. The time of death has been pre-determined for everyone.When a person dies in this world, only his physical body dies and decays in the ground. His soul, which is his essence, feelings, memories and senses, is transferred into another ghostlike body.
After death, the soul cannot return back. This ghostlike body lives in another dimension, the unseen world, which is beyond our human senses and knowledge.
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Post by Follow on May 3, 2011 16:25:31 GMT -5
Um, what?
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Post by Darkrai17 on May 3, 2011 16:36:17 GMT -5
@lusia: It's what I believe that will happen after all of us die. So it's okay if you don't understand any of this^^. I am just telling jack what will happen because I believe this is the truth.
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Post by Jack on May 3, 2011 16:37:59 GMT -5
I beleive, That one day, the sky will open, and the king of memes will come. He will b followed by mudkipz, and cereal guy, and err, the otther ones...
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Post by koifish on May 3, 2011 17:16:40 GMT -5
Kay so like... Abortioned(?) babies were destined to die and stuff, is what you're saying? Cause I am totally against that beep unless it's like... You were raped and got pregnant, having the baby could kill you, that sort of stuff. God couldn't truly send unborn babies to hell What sort of omnipotent being sends- Gonna stop there, but that's basically why most religions are a bunch of BS. You're not gonna beep someone cause they were killed before they even knew about you. Unless you're just that much of a jerk, which leads to the discussion on whether or not the "Devil" and "God" are the same person or not. BUT YEAH SO HOW'S THE WEATHER?
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Post by Follow on May 3, 2011 17:25:23 GMT -5
Actually the bible states that unborn babies go straight to heaven as it is flawless in nature.
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Post by Fusion on May 3, 2011 17:29:53 GMT -5
Lovely point, koi ^,^
As for ur theory, 17, you can believe it all u want ^_^ i do want to try to talk sense into you, but if u are believing that a "soul" is transfered, somehow, then i know you are what i refer to as "a lost cause". However, DONT stop believing that! Views and opinions are what keeps us going ^,^ my opinion on death, that i entirely believe with all my heart, is that when u die, you are dead. The machine has stopped, ur body is useless, other than for other flora and fauna.
I read something on the net a while back. A religious man is beating an Aethiest with a cross, shouting things like blasphemer, etc.. The aethiest then goes to snap the cross, and the christian begs for respect. Aethiesm should gain the respect that religions do. :3
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Post by Nekoaa on May 3, 2011 21:27:56 GMT -5
I don't think that Atheists don't have respect, we just seem to have a lot less of it from religious people. As lovely as all that after-death stuff sounds, how do you prove any of that? If everybody had a predetermined death, then God planned people in military dying from rampant grenades, teenagers dying of cancer, a kidnapped child being murdered by the kidnappers... all this happens because he wants it to? Also, would abortion be considered murder? Would soldiers killing other soldiers be considered murder? There seems to be too much of a gray zone whenever I think about this. Technically, a soldier has sinned. Does that mean he is going to hell for defending his country?
What about souls? I mean, look at souls from a scientific view. If it exists, even if it is invisible, then it must have mass. If it has mass, it is measurable. So why haven't we measured it yet?
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Post by hackzorz on May 3, 2011 21:46:55 GMT -5
I totally agree all the way with nekoaa (off topic) but nekoaa am i good for this ip thing becuase i want to feel like im wanted here not hated for being thought of some guy
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Post by Darkrai17 on May 4, 2011 7:56:32 GMT -5
@fusion:Well,it states what I just said in the Quran. However you can think what you will of me because I won't stop you. On the other hand thanks for the support on encouraging me to keep on believing what I will.^^*gives him a huggle* Also you should also believe what you want DON'T ever stop believing.
@koi: The baby stuff, in Islam babies do go straight to heaven because they are sinless and have not reached the age of puberty.
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Post by koifish on May 4, 2011 12:44:02 GMT -5
Okay so I know some VERY "sinful" children :/ They are greedy, selfish little pests that- POINT IS! It's stupid to argue that you are responsible for your sins the moment you mature. So you're combining all these religions into one religion that basically covers every loophole I'm going to think of? Why don't people just all believe like that? Cause then people would stop being so butthurt and stuff when they are told their religion is wrong.
The Nuremberg Trials said something about being responsible for your crimes even in wartime. Granted I don't think those effect the winner, cause then there'd be no-one to charge them unless they got their butts kicked. Granted I dunno much about history, so I'm probably thinking about something else >>
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Post by Darkrai17 on May 4, 2011 13:50:51 GMT -5
*smiles* Either way you're making some lovely points there Koi san^^, and yeah you're correct people wouldn't be so butthurt if someone told them that they're religion is wrong. They should just ignore the person, not take it to heart and just carry on believing what they believe.
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